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	<title>Comments on: Rape</title>
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		<title>By: DufusMaximus</title>
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		<dc:creator>DufusMaximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the house locking analogy doesn&#039;t work completely because there is no equivalent for the consent angle in the theft of an unlocked house. 

While I agree with your point (though not for these reasons), Julie Bindel and you aren&#039;t arguing the same thing. She is talking &quot;theory&quot; - about how a legal system should not be concerned about the physical appearance of the woman in question. You are talking &quot;practice&quot; - the imprudence of dressing inappropriately. Both points are valid and it is necessary to have both a fair judiciary and prudent anti-crime measures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the house locking analogy doesn&#8217;t work completely because there is no equivalent for the consent angle in the theft of an unlocked house. </p>
<p>While I agree with your point (though not for these reasons), Julie Bindel and you aren&#8217;t arguing the same thing. She is talking &#8220;theory&#8221; &#8211; about how a legal system should not be concerned about the physical appearance of the woman in question. You are talking &#8220;practice&#8221; &#8211; the imprudence of dressing inappropriately. Both points are valid and it is necessary to have both a fair judiciary and prudent anti-crime measures.</p>
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		<title>By: Karthik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karthik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The effect is independent of the causes you&#039;ve attributed to it.  The only cause in question then is the man&#039;s urge to take advantage. There&#039;s no advantage to be ceded here. The advantage is taken already - independent of the &quot;ceded&quot; advantages. And, I don&#039;t see what &quot;responsibility&quot; you are talking about then and why some &quot;blame&quot; needs to be placed on the woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The effect is independent of the causes you&#8217;ve attributed to it.  The only cause in question then is the man&#8217;s urge to take advantage. There&#8217;s no advantage to be ceded here. The advantage is taken already &#8211; independent of the &#8220;ceded&#8221; advantages. And, I don&#8217;t see what &#8220;responsibility&#8221; you are talking about then and why some &#8220;blame&#8221; needs to be placed on the woman.</p>
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		<title>By: Vijay Krishna Narayanan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vijay Krishna Narayanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Chastity belts&quot; are an extreme form of &quot;locking the house&quot;, and it is not what I meant.

You are buttressing my opposition to Bindel when you suggest that the male mind is corrupt enough to take advantage of any situation. I ask &quot;Why should women cede the advantage, when they stand to lose, especially in the Indian context?&quot;

I guess the prevalent thinking on the issue of rape in India is that it is more heinous than robbery, given the exalted status that Indian society accords virginity. In this scenario, &quot;dressing outrageously&quot; or &quot;be gagging to pull a man for sex&quot; is taking it a bit too far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Chastity belts&#8221; are an extreme form of &#8220;locking the house&#8221;, and it is not what I meant.</p>
<p>You are buttressing my opposition to Bindel when you suggest that the male mind is corrupt enough to take advantage of any situation. I ask &#8220;Why should women cede the advantage, when they stand to lose, especially in the Indian context?&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess the prevalent thinking on the issue of rape in India is that it is more heinous than robbery, given the exalted status that Indian society accords virginity. In this scenario, &#8220;dressing outrageously&#8221; or &#8220;be gagging to pull a man for sex&#8221; is taking it a bit too far.</p>
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		<title>By: Lekhni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lekhni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 02:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;locking the house&quot; analogy really doesn&#039;t work - unless you really mean chastity belts.

In real life, it doesn&#039;t really matter what dress you wear.  In the Indian context, rapes continue to happen in small towns and big cities and have always happened even at a time when women had never heard of mini skirts and spaghetti straps. So attire has really nothing to do with it.  

Rapes happen in broad daylight, they happen in crowded trains.  Are you saying that if a woman gets raped, she was &quot;violating her individual rights&quot;, whatever that means?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;locking the house&#8221; analogy really doesn&#8217;t work &#8211; unless you really mean chastity belts.</p>
<p>In real life, it doesn&#8217;t really matter what dress you wear.  In the Indian context, rapes continue to happen in small towns and big cities and have always happened even at a time when women had never heard of mini skirts and spaghetti straps. So attire has really nothing to do with it.  </p>
<p>Rapes happen in broad daylight, they happen in crowded trains.  Are you saying that if a woman gets raped, she was &#8220;violating her individual rights&#8221;, whatever that means?</p>
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